Thursday, April 1, 2021

Argentina

 No, I am not participating in A to Z.  But I have decided to take the opportunity of the A to Z to cover some of the topics I want to discuss in my family genealogy research.  I did read a comment online about A to Z that "no one is interested in someone else's family history," so feel free to quit reading now, LOL.  

I mentioned way back when I started this adventure, that my mother always talked about the family members who went to South America.  Except that no one seemed to know who they were.  One of the first sources I used to find family members was my mother's collection of funeral cards.  They usually have very useful information on them.

One of the cards for a woman who lived and died in Detroit gave me my first South America connection.  I had her married name and date of birth, and searching for her I found that she had been born in Buenos Aires in 1892, returned with her family to Italy, married there in 1918, came to America in 1919 with her husband and settled in Montana.  They eventually came to Detroit and were here for the 1940 census.  As it turns out, her children, who are my fifth cousins, all lived in this area, with the oldest and her family living within shouting distance of my current home.  I could have passed them in the store and never known.

I got curious as to how these people chose Argentina and discovered that there was a great migration from Italy to Argentina between 1880 and 1914, which goes along with what I see in my family.  Most of the farm land where my family was from had been badly depleted of nutrients and Argentina offered a fresh place to start.  They could move there and become citizens within two years.  They were not over-taxed or discriminated against.  Also, many in my greater family are bricklayers, masons, tile workers (that's what my family did), etc.  Those trades were of great interest to South American countries.  

I also found young men moving to South America with their brides following, sometimes after a marriage by proxy was performed.  One distant cousin, a delightful young man named Rodrigo, contacted me last year.  We have yet to figure out our direct ancestor.  

In addition to cousins in Argentina, I also have several in Australia on both the Italian and Polish side of the family, though the Polish connection may be extremely difficult to ever discover.  Though we share a last name, those records are from the time of Russian rule in Poland and very few of those records are available online.  

So my hat is off to men like Pietro Antonio Alba who went off to Argentina in his 40's, leaving his family in Italy in the 1890's.  He died in Buenos Aires in 1904, the fate of his fortune unknown.

13 comments:

  1. Hi Denise - I'm always amazed at the insensitive comments people leave - so I'm glad you're going ahead - regardless. When writing a post about a married couple and getting their 'history' - I found out that a lot of 'emigration' occurred after WW1 - to all sorts of places ... Argentina being one, but Eastern Europe too ...

    Also good to know that you've traced so many relatives - congratulations - cheers Hilary

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    1. It would been great to have been able to find all the people when my folks were still alive. While my grandfathers came before WWI, other cousins came in the 1950's. Unfortunately, nobody ever spoke much about the old country.

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  2. I never knew that Argentina was a destination for migrants, so that is something I've learned today! My family is scattered worldwide and my cousin in California and I are currently working our way back with surprising results! Some people's family histories can be pretty dull, but yours is proving to be fascinating!

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    1. Oh, how I would love to travel again. My cousins in Switzerland and France came back for visits a few years ago, but my godchild in Wales has not been here since her father died in 2008. Of course, my Windsor cousin and I just exchange emails. Who knows when we can cross the border again.

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  3. I think this is fascinating, Denise!

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  4. Why do morons leave such nasty comments. I actually love reading about genealogy because there are so many stories. I had no idea there was a huge migration to South America. I love that they went back to Italy only to go to the States. My relatives, on my dad's side seem to have come over to Canada and the States during a big migration in the 1870s. My grandfather ended up in Chicago and he owned a saloon before he married and ended up in Barry's Bay in Ontario Canada.

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    1. I read the comment on an old A to Z Challenge post. But one of the bloggers did her genealogy one year and I found it fascinating.

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  5. I enjoyed reading about your family history. I'm into that! So post away.

    Very interesting that some of the branches in your family moved to Argentina. I haven't delved into the lives of distant cousins - but I should. Fascinating how they lived their lives and what pro-active things they did to survive and make a better life for themselves.

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    1. I did read some of your posts on genealogy. I am glad you are also working on your tree. So much interesting stuff to learn.

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  6. Denis me alegra que hayas pasado a visitarme y gracias a eso me entero que existe mucha gente que no sabe mucho de mi país. Te cuento que mis abuellos llegaron a Argentina a principios de 1900, lo hicieron unos desde España y otros desde Italia. Argentina les dio alimentos y trabajo, con esto pudieron criar a sus hijos haciéndolos hombres y mujeres de bien.
    Argentina es un país rico en paisajes y posibilidade para que la gente pueda vivir bien. Lamentablemente, como sucede a vececes, los gobernantes no son lo que un pueblo trabajador e inteligente necesita. Sin más, te cuento que dimos al mundo 8 Premios Nobel: Carlos Saavedra Lamas Nobel de la Paz, 1936; Bernardo Houssay Nobel de Medicina 1947; Luis Federico Leloir Nobel de Química, 1970; Adolfo Pérez Esquivel Nobel de la Paz, 1980; y César Milstein Nobel en Medicina, 1984.
    También el mundo le debe agradecer a René Favaloro que hizo un descubrimiento que revolucionó al mundo de la cardiología: desarrolló el bypass coronario, un procedimiento que revolucionó el mundo de las patologías coronarias y sigue salvando muchas vidas.
    Te dejo un post que escribí sobre inventores argentinos.
    https://norma2-siempreesprimavera-norma2.blogspot.com/2011/08/inventos-argentinos.html
    Besos y espero que sigamos visitándonos

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    1. Gracias por detenerse aquí y compartir.

      Thanks for stopping by and sharing.

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  7. Translation of above:
    Denis I am glad that you have come to visit me and thanks to that I find out that there are many people who do not know much about my country. I tell you that my grandmothers came to Argentina in the early 1900s, some did from Spain and others from Italy. Argentina gave them food and work, with this they were able to raise their children making them good men and women.
    Argentina is a country rich in landscapes and possibilities for people to live well. Unfortunately, as sometimes happens, the rulers are not what a hard-working and intelligent people need. Without further ado, I'll tell you that we gave the world 8 Nobel Prizes: Carlos Saavedra Lamas Nobel Peace Prize, 1936; Bernardo Houssay Nobel of Medicine 1947; Luis Federico Leloir Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 1970; Adolfo Pérez Esquivel Nobel Peace Prize, 1980; and César Milstein Nobel in Medicine, 1984.
    The world must also thank René Favaloro who made a discovery that revolutionized the world of cardiology: he developed coronary bypass, a procedure that revolutionized the world of coronary disease and continues to save many lives.
    He left you a post I wrote about Argentine inventors.
    https://norma2-siempreesprimavera-norma2.blogspot.com/2011/08/inventos-argentinos.html
    Kisses and I hope we keep visiting each other

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